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Tribes: Ascend

Well, well, well, we find ourselves here once more, eh old chap? Now I know I have talked about it before and I will again when the game actually comes out but for now I wish to go over it again. Now that Hi-rez have shown videos and people have actually played the game I think I’m going to chime in even though I have not.

While fishing around the internet I’ve found alot of complaints about the game, many completely justified. I shall list them for you in no particular order, ones with no basis I will put my response behind in parenthesis:

  • FTP (okay I don’t understand, because its free you’re afraid that the population will be huge with all these n00bs who don’t deserve to play will much stuff up? Get off you’re high horse.)
  • Micro Transactions (It’s not pay to win it’s an express lane to get weapons [I’ll talk about that in a bit])
  • 2 weapons per armor type.
  • Preset loadouts.
  • No mods
  • No private servers
Okay first I want to talk about micro transactions. As stated about they seem to be an express lane to get weapons which you’ll unlock naturally as time goes on, think TF2. Generally, I don’t like it, and alot of other people do not either because yes, one of the main appeal of Tribes was having everything from the get go. I guess I’ll also talk about the preset loadouts. Which is to say you wont get to make custom presets for yourself, I REALLY dont like the idea of this, and by “really” I actually got red in the face when I learned this.
I used several different light loadouts playing the compshop way back in the day. Seeing as I played a sniper I had different ones for different situations. I guess I wont be able to just switch my weapons on the fly to change how I want to play. Also, I guess I wont be switching weapons because I can only have two at a time, plus a melee weapon which of COURSE is insta kill.
More to the point after watching the videos from Quakecon (go check them out) I can say it LOOKS like it’s Tribes which is honestly more than I could say about Vengeance. No I wont talk about that abomination here. It does look like they are trying to make a new Tribes game, and I hope they succeed, but after reading online, finding people talking about it at Quakecon I can honestly say my resolve is shaken. It’s not that I don’t think it can be done but following in other companies footsteps instead of making your own?
Now I am NOT against microtransactions, quite the opposite, I believe under the right circumstances they can be good and amazing. Which is to say follow TF2 for it, don’t add anything you cant get normally in the game anyways, or if you do make sure it’s something completely cosmetic, not say $15 map packs.
I just don’t understand why it’s so hard to remake Tribes? How hard can it be to just remake Tribes 2? I just honestly cannot fathom it, and as time goes on I just get madder. If this one fails I mean honestly just let the franchise die, let some indie person take care of Tribes and actually listens to the community.

Tribal Combat

I’m not going to say that I’m a video game reviewer, or a developer. And since the game(s) I’m going to talk about today aren’t out yet take what I say with a grain of salt yes? The games might be amazing, spectacular, worthy of praise. But we shall see, turn your jet pack on and walk through the door.

One of the first games I ever played for PC was Starsiege: Tribes, I believe the first was more than likely Starcraft.

I played, and forgive my french “the ever loving shit” out of this game. I remember sneaking down at night after I was supposed to be in bed to play with all the friends I had made in the game, to me this was my first MMO. And I say that because games with 200+ people on a server call themselves MMO’s, Tribes did it back in 98 with 250 people servers. The sheer insanity of maps with 250 people was staggering and awe inspiring. Tribes 2 did it as well but we’ll talk about that later. The server I played on was the comp shop and we were amazing I played with some of the best players I’ve ever seen. My brothers in arms, we were united under a single banner: Grandpimp, Carrion, Tornado, LittleMissTornado, Moosekiller, Kong. There are others but thats just a handful of us. The fact many of us moved off Tribes once The comp shop was shut down was a testament to not only what we meant to each other but no other server or mod could compare.

I eventually moved onto Tribes 2, and was fulfilled for a time. I never found a permanent server on Tribes 2 one that I could call my home, and I suppose thats really where my dilemma with it ends. It was an amazing game with all the weapons and options that surpassed the original in my opinion. Dynamix really outdid themselves and honestly I do think 2 expanded and was a better game than the original, the problem was I got there to late. There really isn’t much to say about it, but know I was playing the Tribes games well into my high school years. There is my resume for this shit okay? I played “the ever loving shit” out of every Tribes game. And yes…that does include Vengeance.

Vengeance was …. “different” I would say. They tried to take some of the more rampant complaints about Tribes and abolish them. For one thing you couldn’t leave the “map area” like you could in it’s predecessors. Another was a problem with my main area of expertise, the sniper rifle which used to have infinite shots had limited ammo and a maximum range that was less than most of the other weapons. A lot of the weapons were messed up to be honest, the “flame thrower” who’s actual name I don’t remember could kill lights very easily with a single shot AND it had infinite ammo. But really to top it all off pretty much as soon as the game came out all support for it was pulled and it pretty much died soon after.

Now I hear about not one but two new Tribes games? I’m not going to mix words, I found Vengeance to be a catastrophic blow to the franchise, and the stigma still surrounding it is something I would worry about.

The first I want to talk about is the MMO. Tribes: Universe as it will be called. My heart is aflutter thinking about it. I imagine it to be like planetside but hopefully without being as big of a resource hog. I could actually see this working well…a little too well. If it played similar to planetside it would be incredible. I can see it now!

Heavy Personnel Carriers flying in formation dropping people off as a massive ground war goes on underneath for a floating fortress. My favorite memory of Planetside was a battle I was in where literally a army moved to attack a forward base I imagine it to be like this, except with more flying  and disk’s flying in the air, more shazbots being yelled as I lift my arm into the air. I do have high hopes for the MMO because if it’s good and it feels like Tribes I could see my life being absorbed by it, but in a good way, like a man loves a woman…or vice versa.

Next up is Tribes: Ascend. It seems to look good so far and I’m glad they’re focusing on multiplayer and not singleplayer. It is as it should be. Now lets move into rant mode about Tribes shall we?

Tribes, I’m not sure exactly how one manages to screw up Tribes, but obviously it can be done ala Vengeance. Now I’m not saying Vengeance was a bad game, just…it wasn’t Tribes. you basically just need to lift Tribes 2 and put it in a new engine, undo the restrictions put on weapons and maps by Vengeance. Nothing needs to be taken away or put in, if you feel the need to put things in test them, I’m not gonna say V didn’t but well…it certainly feels like they didn’t. It’s not exactly rocket science, the reason tribes 2 worked was because it took everything, EVERYTHING, Tribes was and expanded upon that. I think it’s possible to do it again, in fact I want Hi-rez to do it again, I’m literally on my knees begging them to not completely mess up. Don’t try to beat the heavy players in the game industry, don’t make it some Call of Duty wanna be, just please, PLEASE make it Tribes. If you make it people will goto it, people will buy it I know I will.

I really want a new game that I love and feel like it becomes an extension of who I am, like a samurai and his katana. I realize I’m probably just kicking around in the dirt but I honestly do hope that the game is a success. I really hope that it’s good, and please show off some of the other Tribes as well, like the starwolf. It doesn’t just have to be about the Diamond Sword and the Blood Eagle.

I guess that’s it, I guess thats all I wanted to say. I’m sure you’ll see me rage about these games in the future or heaping praises upon them, let me put it this way: It will definitely be one or the other. As a bonus if you stuck around have some Firefall. It’s basically a spiritual successor to Tribes. Please let this be good too, but seeing as it’s going to be freeware I don’t know how to feel about it, and since it’s single player there a lot more that can go wrong. I hope I’m wrong I really do.